ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

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ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby Sandy » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:10 am

http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs. ... 30348/1018

Hope this link works. It is an excellent article.
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby JaneFordA » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:15 am

Sandy wrote:http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs. ... 30348/1018

Hope this link works. It is an excellent article.


It sure is. And just in case that link has a time-stamp on it, I've converted the article to a Word document and saved it. I'll be e-mailing it to the unsuspecting later on, too!

Thanks for posting this, Sandy! :)
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Postby melcay » Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:20 am

Terrific article. I enjoyed the site, thanks for posting link. I was glad to see the reference to Deutoronomy about the poor always being among us. We often treat the poor like a disease. Good link. I also liked the liberal reference to Jesus, wouldn't the SBC challenge that! :lol:
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby seeker » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:12 pm

The link no work now ?

where that Word document ?! :)
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby seeker » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:13 pm

Where that word document ?
thanks
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby Beaver » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:13 am

JaneFordA wrote:
Sandy wrote:http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050223/OPINION01/502230348/1018

Hope this link works. It is an excellent article.


It sure is. And just in case that link has a time-stamp on it, I've converted the article to a Word document and saved it. I'll be e-mailing it to the unsuspecting later on, too!

Thanks for posting this, Sandy! :)



I have been off this site for a long time, and missed the article. Is the Word document still avaliable?
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby Joel_H » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:26 am

Me too, please.
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby JaneFordA » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:43 am

My date stamp on this document is October 12 2005 (last modified). I sure hope this is it! Looks kinda strange but we'll see what the consensus is! The un-bolded sections are the authors comments, maybe???

Theological Liberalism

Theological Liberalism is not simply one departure. It is an aggregate of several.
Oh, i don’t know. I know many who don’t really know what a liberal is who are willing to assign liberalism on one feature and assume the other criteria are true in addition.

Liberalism rejects biblical literalism and the inerrancy of the Bible.
I go for Biblical literalism as far as I can. I believe that all English Bibles are individually and collectively the Written Word of God (not the Living Word of God which is Messiah Jesus). In fact, I’m gathering lots of data about what folks mean by Bible inerrancy over at: http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/4/2497.html

Liberalism considers the freedom to construct one’s own personal view of God to be necessary.
IMHO this isn’t Liberalism; it's Baptist Theology: Soul Competency.

Liberalism holds broader views on salvation than those found in the bible including universalism and Unitarian teachings.
I preach against universalism and unitarianism.

Liberalism emphasizes inclusive fellowship and community. (Which today includes fellowship with sodomites.)
I went to a Church of Christ evangelical meeting. I wonder if I’m a closet Religious Liberal? I talked to a faggot once and i didn’t light a faggot under him; I might be a closet Religious Liberal?

Liberalism demonstrates a willingness to consider and adopt viewpoints which have their roots outside of biblical Christianity.
I’m beginning to worry about this. I see too many fundamentalists who are strict Black/white-istes, they see the whole world in all Black or all White, no shades of gray, no color. What a dull life it must be. And if you want to talk to them you have to use their exact vocabulary or they will think you are talkin’ liberal.

Frankly i worry about them and the New Age Movement. The New Age Movement tends to use the same words with different meanings. It will be fooling these poor Black/white-istes. The Black/white-istes cannot cope with different words having the same meaning so they surely cannot cope with the same words having different meanings. Sad, sad.

Liberalism displays a willingness to combine theology with modern scientific theories.
I have two degrees in Science. In my head is science and theology. If that is a ‘willingness to combine,’ then I’m a Theological Liberal. When science can be used to illustrate a theological point in my Sunday School class, I use it—if this is a ‘willingness to combine,’ then I’m a Theological Liberal.

The antithesis of Theological Liberalism is Fundamentalism. The Fundamentals are: inerrancy of the Scriptures / virgin birth/ physical resurrection of the body/ substitutionary atonement/original sin.
Yep, I believe those make me a Fundamentalist—the OPPOSITE of Theological Liberalism.

What I don’t like is that because I know what The Second Law of Thermodynamics is about—I get marked Theological Liberal and it is assumed that i have sodomites in my house every day???

So how about you? Are you a Theological Liberal? If so, how so? Are you a Theological Moderate? If so, how so? Something else? Me too
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby Joel_H » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:31 am

Jane, i like your new pickie. But isn't that Joan and not Jane?
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Re: ELCA Minister Defines "Liberalism"

Postby JaneFordA » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:06 pm

Joel_H wrote:Jane, i like your new pickie. But isn't that Joan and not Jane?


This one is Julie (Newmar). I chose Eartha for BLife.com. :)

I could have sworn that was Joan Crawford. What do I know?
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